tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post480893320344373973..comments2024-03-26T12:05:58.591-04:00Comments on Freemasons For Dummies: More Squabbles in the Irregular WorldChristopher Hodapphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-22399140792828124892017-07-15T22:59:13.700-04:002017-07-15T22:59:13.700-04:00The size of the sandbox------wow!.....I was thinki...The size of the sandbox------wow!.....I was thinking about joint gwu!!!!!John smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01159648139417535320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-75640769899390767152011-01-25T12:23:32.755-05:002011-01-25T12:23:32.755-05:00Actually David,our sandbox is MUCH bigger.Just a f...Actually David,our sandbox is MUCH bigger.Just a fact. I am not stating that it is better or worse just obviously much bigger. KarnermmWBShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01877211401737556508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-22943360395019811142011-01-25T01:08:48.449-05:002011-01-25T01:08:48.449-05:00Wouldn't be a little better if all playhouses ...Wouldn't be a little better if all playhouses just ignored the other?<br />I mean no version of Free-Masonry has the biggest sandbox and no sandbox is perfect. Can we agree to to disagree? Let each variety take it's place and those who feel lead to that one version they like do so in peace.<br />Quiet frankly all this line drawing is getting VERY old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-71677513542553165862011-01-21T15:44:08.232-05:002011-01-21T15:44:08.232-05:00Thanks, Mister Coste. Another glowing example of t...Thanks, Mister Coste. Another glowing example of the superior sort of "Mason" drawn to the Grand Orient of the USA.<br /><br />"By their fruits ye shall know them."Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-37391807016275584032011-01-21T11:45:59.628-05:002011-01-21T11:45:59.628-05:00That thimble is right next to your feet?
oh, but w...That thimble is right next to your feet?<br />oh, but when one cannot see their own feet, then one would not be able to their thimble.<br /><br />Also, I highly doubt something could ever slip off those sausage fingers that are all bloated.<br />F:.TCTubal Cainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00704479584240584425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-65035009958091674912011-01-20T00:41:10.443-05:002011-01-20T00:41:10.443-05:00Mister Michalek,
I knew I could count on someone f...Mister Michalek,<br />I knew I could count on someone from Halcyon to make sure the rest of us were corrected.<br /><br />Where did I drop my thimble...Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-70037275875194956302011-01-19T21:50:44.930-05:002011-01-19T21:50:44.930-05:00Peter,
I wish you could see the look of surprise o...Peter,<br />I wish you could see the look of surprise on my face.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-44074123007925811812011-01-19T20:24:14.858-05:002011-01-19T20:24:14.858-05:00As a postscript to my previous comment, it is quit...As a postscript to my previous comment, it is quite possible that 2 Bowl actually believes that GOUSA ended the treaty.<br /><br />Knowing what I do of the individuals involved, he may have been given false information regarding the facts of the case.<br /><br />If that is true, it is not my intent to accuse him of dishonesty personally.<br /><br />The facts are what they are, and I sincerely hope that accusations against the GWU and its integrity are not forthcoming from some quarters. <br /><br />The balance of the evidence in such a case would not be favorable to those involved.San Diego Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138769022498075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-7289227824376697182011-01-19T19:25:08.962-05:002011-01-19T19:25:08.962-05:00Dear Chris,
Dishonesty on the part of the GOUSA, ...Dear Chris,<br /><br />Dishonesty on the part of the GOUSA, such as these statements, figured into the GWU's decision to terminate the treaty, as I understand it.<br /><br />The treaty between the GWU and the GOUSA was terminated by the Executive Board of the GWU, not by the GOUSA,unless "not making news about it" involved not informing the GWU that the treaty was over.<br /><br />An obedience's objections to attempts to poach its members hardly represents "retaliation".<br /><br />Again, I am speaking for myself, not my obedience, but why does the GOUSA have such a problem with honesty?San Diego Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138769022498075405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-62229926641955957732011-01-19T18:42:59.313-05:002011-01-19T18:42:59.313-05:00Chris H-
It amazes me to this day how easy it is ...Chris H-<br /><br />It amazes me to this day how easy it is to spread false rumors. Too bad you are a willing participant. It simply shows individuals adgendas and small mindedness.<br /><br />Chris H, you have access to enough people, even at Halcyon to call or email to verify such non-sense before spreading it further.<br /><br />There is no disharmony at Halcyon. We had a guy transfer from a GLofOhio lodge last year and in the last 5 or 6 months he brought 3 of his friends to the lodge. The three received EA degress. These newly minted members announced the other week that they wish to do something else. This is hardly the 'split' that some adgenda-driven individuals are pumping it up to be.<br /><br />I am Chris Michalek. If you don't know who I am then spend 2 seconds checking around. I am well known. I am a long known person at Halcyon and I personally accepted the "PATENT" (that whatever document you refer) from the GOdF for the GOUSA. Halcyon is very fine and Halcyon stands tall with GOUSA through thick and thin.<br /><br />Please exercise some judgement before you spread non-sense unchecked in the future on this little sewing circle website.Mr. Know-it-allhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15494745292044476626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-23286078507438978582011-01-19T14:36:38.238-05:002011-01-19T14:36:38.238-05:00One coreection: The GOUSA actually withdrew from t...One coreection: The GOUSA actually withdrew from the agreement first due to philosophical differences, but did not make news about it. We were silent, so, in turn, the GWU had withdraw in retaliation, which is fine and tough to do when one of the parties already withdrew.<br />No need to split hairs though, I just feel Brother Hodapp likes to report Truths. <br /><br />Thanks for the news though.<br /><br />And yes, growing pains, just like in the 1700's. Masons had problems as well.<br /><br />Happy New Year all!Tubal Cainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00704479584240584425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-7398333021449819082011-01-18T07:22:57.913-05:002011-01-18T07:22:57.913-05:00Peter, just as a casual bystander, I always wonder...Peter, just as a casual bystander, I always wondered what the GWU leadership was drinking, er, thinking when it entered into whatever alliance it had with the GOUSA.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-37280896174871784542011-01-18T05:45:38.162-05:002011-01-18T05:45:38.162-05:00Ah ... growing pains! Sounds like one or the other...Ah ... growing pains! Sounds like one or the other of these organizations is beginning to feel secure enough to assert itself as having "rights and privileges" which are not to be transgressed by other orgainizations. Analogous to the 2-year old first learning the power of the word "no" .....lmehaffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18099165338009240645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-6084746970910438342011-01-18T03:53:45.170-05:002011-01-18T03:53:45.170-05:00Dear Chris,
Actually our obedience is almost doub...Dear Chris,<br /><br />Actually our obedience is almost double the number of members stated in that report, but is still quite small compared to the American Grand Lodges.<br /><br />I have seen the same number mentioned on Mr. king's masonincinfo page, and while it may have been accurate at one time, it is not accurate now.<br /><br />Liberal Freemasonry of the GO type has not grown as much as I would like to see in the United States, but despite our numbers, we have serious and dedicated Brothers and Sisters working in our lodges.<br /><br />Besides our people in the GWU, the members of the Women's Grand Lodge of Belgium, of LDH, and the Grand Orient of France-North America that I have met have all been high quality individuals and very sincere in their practice of Freemasonry.<br /><br />The fact that there have never been any controversies or online issues with our, or these other obediences I mentioned, speaks to the quality of our members, and the peaceful nature of our work.<br /><br />The GWU, and the obediences I have mentioned, have always avoided conflict with the mainstream Grand Lodges, whose members are respected by us as fellow masons, regardless of their feelings towards our lodges.<br /><br />The GWU (from my own experience), has no interest in generating conflict, controversy, or "sticking it" to the mainstream Grand Lodges. <br /><br />Our obedience goes about its work quietly and has no interest in making waves, or stirring up discord. <br /><br />Of course I am speaking on behalf of myself, and I do not speak in any capacity for my obedience, the GWU.<br /><br />Thank you for allowing me the privilege of making these observations. <br /><br />Peter Yancey<br />Lodge New Isis #8<br />Orient of Los Angeles<br />George Washington UnionSan Diego Freemasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138769022498075405noreply@blogger.com