tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post4724316200852794109..comments2024-03-26T12:05:58.591-04:00Comments on Freemasons For Dummies: Breaking: Hostage Situation at Houston Scottish RiteChristopher Hodapphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-33610208430092379832022-07-13T14:28:38.173-04:002022-07-13T14:28:38.173-04:00It would indeed be a worthy endeavor. Probably the...It would indeed be a worthy endeavor. Probably the first place to start is with Pierre Mollier. He's the the director of the library, archives, and museum for the Grand Orient de France (Musée de la Franc-Maçonnerie) in Paris. Fortunately, he speaks fluent English, and he's been a point of contact for 20 years concerning the returning of captured Nazi/Soviet archives. He and his team are well versed in what's available and what is not. Also contact Patricia Kennedy Grimsted, an independent researcher at Harvard who really spearheaded the recovery of these documents. Finally, have a look at this story and the French documentary it links to : https://freemasonsfordummies.blogspot.com/2019/10/video-nazis-vs-freemasons.html<br />Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-39200882501545985752022-07-13T13:44:38.392-04:002022-07-13T13:44:38.392-04:00It would be a worthy endeavor. I would love to co...It would be a worthy endeavor. I would love to collaborate with any brother who is interested in taking on this project.Brendan Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17232589331277699698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-55863122844195566842022-07-08T15:48:35.392-04:002022-07-08T15:48:35.392-04:00I must freely admit something here concerning thos...<br />I must freely admit something here concerning those numbers. I am personally responsible for specifically pairing the "80,000-200,000" estimates in the first edition of <i>Freemasons For Dummies</i> in 2005. I do not believe those figures ever appeared in print anywhere prior to my use. Since that time, it has shown up all over the world (including museum displays and websites, Holocaust-related literature, and countless research papers).<br /><br />Since the original edition of my book, I have been questioned by countless Masons from around the world demanding to know just where I found them. First, please note that books in the <i>For Dummies</i> series are NOT permitted to use footnotes or extensively cite other books. That's a corporate decision, not an author's. So I no longer have a simple way today to re-create what and how I uncovered in 2004 when I began the project. I CAN say that I specifically wanted to find out the true scope of Masons who were imprisoned or murdered in Germany, as well as in ALL of the combined territories the Nazis invaded. No single source was able to specifically cite those cumulative numbers.<br /><br />My methodology was to assemble all the information I could from as many sources possible, including estimates found in many Masonic publications between 1939 and the ten years after the end of the war. They were being reported in the U.S. throughout the war whenever a grand lodge was able to assemble the information, or when reporters at the time could uncover them. Finding these resources in 2004-5 occupied an enormous amount of time in order to to write one single sentence in a very general book about the fraternity, but I admit it became something of an obsession after a while. In the end, I added everything up that was both reasonable and from fairly respectable sources, and still came away with that enormous spread of between 80,000-200,000. The biggest trouble was determining whether a Mason was arrested and remained incarcerated or killed SPECIFICALLY for being a member of the fraternity - or were they taken by the Nazis for other reasons, and their Masonic membership had little or nothing to do with it. That alone is almost impossible to discover. <br /><br />Additionally, tens of thousands of lodge and grand lodge records from the occupied countries that were confiscated by the Nazis during the war were seized by the Russians as they advanced from the east. The Soviets wanted the Masonic membership records for the same reason the Nazis did - to have an easy, ready-made list to track down potential troublemakers. Those records often included names, addresses, relatives, associates, occupations and much more from lodge petitions and membership rosters. Some of those lost records were locked away in storage and forgotten for decades. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, a lot have been shipped back to the countries from where they were taken, providing a huge trove of information for researchers that didn't exist until 15 years ago.<br /><br />Anyhow, if that 80,000-200,000 is not considered reasonable by most recent scholarship, I would love having some real revised numbers with more concrete sources.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-42685027954611540292022-07-03T19:15:14.203-04:002022-07-03T19:15:14.203-04:00This person should spend some time in jail.This person should spend some time in jail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-79898957801127861812022-07-01T12:14:46.411-04:002022-07-01T12:14:46.411-04:00Hello, Anonymous
We have known about them for dec...Hello, Anonymous<br /><br />We have known about them for decades. I encourage you to visit the online archives of the American Holocaust Museum if you would like to learn more, but I will post one link below to make it easy and to get you started:<br /><br />https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn500500Brendan Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17232589331277699698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-76161222511989692092022-06-30T02:36:57.450-04:002022-06-30T02:36:57.450-04:00"Guarding the West Gate" is an expressio..."Guarding the West Gate" is an expression that admonishes us to take care whom we admit to the Fraternity as a member (i.e. to protect our reputation & harmony within Masonry). Not really a relevant point here.Bill Achbach, Westminster, COhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12577523506961332468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-30230563817201436342022-06-29T12:35:19.100-04:002022-06-29T12:35:19.100-04:00I'm afraid you can delete "in the world&q...I'm afraid you can delete "in the world".<br /><br />Doug Price<br />Scurry Lodge #706<br />Snyder, TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-36836553876426934122022-06-28T19:16:33.716-04:002022-06-28T19:16:33.716-04:00I believe you’re right. The Nazis kept incredible ...I believe you’re right. The Nazis kept incredible records of what they did and there are lists of who they did it to, thankfully and ironically those records were used against them in the prosecution of the Nazis involved in the atrocities. If there are lists of Freemasons having been taken to camps and or killed, I’m pretty sure that we would know by now of them and their numbers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-56106552055559470772022-06-28T15:17:36.420-04:002022-06-28T15:17:36.420-04:00This is why I instituted a program as New York Gra...This is why I instituted a program as New York Grand Master for security cameras and doors locked for ALL Masonic Halls in New York. Similar to Ring and others. Some put in DVR's etc. But in many cases damaged was recorded and given to the authorities. It was a very successful program. Bill SardoneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-14172494473250410462022-06-28T15:01:37.030-04:002022-06-28T15:01:37.030-04:00The various obediences in Paris incorporate in the...The various obediences in Paris incorporate in their buildings monuments to those murdered by the Nazis. I have never counted the names or asked if those listed were anywhere near a complete ist.<br /><br />Bro. Paul Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06435030965629467739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-12716146788069881282022-06-28T14:04:18.388-04:002022-06-28T14:04:18.388-04:00Ironically, I obtained the figure of 80,000 to 200...Ironically, I obtained the figure of 80,000 to 200,000 murdered Freemasons from the book, "Freemasons for Dummies." So that I can learn here, please tell me where you found your numbers and that it was bullying rather than murder. Thanks.Brendan Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17232589331277699698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-90145448630619379062022-06-28T13:53:10.631-04:002022-06-28T13:53:10.631-04:00It is dangerous to be a mason in many places in th...It is dangerous to be a mason in many places in the world Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-31256129343204810652022-06-28T07:55:38.675-04:002022-06-28T07:55:38.675-04:00Even though, the number of 80-200k masonic victims...Even though, the number of 80-200k masonic victims of the Holocaust is around for a long time, it lacks any empirical proof.<br />No doubt that freemasonry was prohbited by the Nazis (like other independend associations) and freemasons were bullied for there lodge membership in private and professional life but this is something different from the Holocaust.<br />in fact, Hjalmar Schacht, the mastermind of German rearmement, who economically made Hitler able to start what turned out to be WW II was a freemason (and Hitler and the Nazi government knew this of course).Michael Sterzenbach, Germanynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-91100009759230569772022-06-28T07:43:17.826-04:002022-06-28T07:43:17.826-04:00No, we did not loose 80-200k in the holocaust, the...No, we did not loose 80-200k in the holocaust, these figures lack any empirical ground (even though they are around for a long time).<br />But yes freemasons have been victoms of many, usually completely irrational supicions.Michael Sterzenbach, Germanynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-79543001180810818242022-06-28T00:57:44.926-04:002022-06-28T00:57:44.926-04:00אני מאחל לכם הצלחה ובריאות.
ממני ומלשכת הר ציון 2 ...אני מאחל לכם הצלחה ובריאות.<br />ממני ומלשכת הר ציון 2 ירושלים.ישראל.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-11637122935761135892022-06-27T19:50:44.910-04:002022-06-27T19:50:44.910-04:00Guard the west seriously Guard the west seriously Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-66511734667624957862022-06-27T14:30:41.760-04:002022-06-27T14:30:41.760-04:00Freemasons have always been targets in difficult t...Freemasons have always been targets in difficult times. We lost 80,000 to 200,000 brothers in the Holocaust. The sword officers are there to remind you that ours can be a serious and dangerous business, being good men. Let's be careful out there.Brendan Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17232589331277699698noreply@blogger.com