tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post2069050861325110899..comments2024-03-26T12:05:58.591-04:00Comments on Freemasons For Dummies: Guns In Lodge: South Carolina's EdictChristopher Hodapphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-29109304405713076962016-03-22T14:38:40.332-04:002016-03-22T14:38:40.332-04:00If security is an issue you can have the Tyler and...If security is an issue you can have the Tyler and an armed detail of brothers (two perhaps) outside the lodge. I see no reason for weapons to enter the lodge. If not you can hire an armed security guard for the hours that lodge and harmony are held, but weapons should not be brought into the lodge. And I'm a Life Member of the NRA.mrcontinentalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02253429765442231588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-59389162565261567062016-03-21T10:22:54.063-04:002016-03-21T10:22:54.063-04:00Personally I find the very idea of bringing weapon...Personally I find the very idea of bringing weapons into the lodge room preposterous and deeply offensive. A Mason should leave his firearms (and swords and axes and chainsaws and whips and whatever other weapons he owns) at home when he travels to lodge. I find myself at a loss as to why this is even a topic of discussion...it simply seems self-evident to me that weapons don't belong inside the lodge room, and I can't relate to or understand the thinking of those who feel they can't attend a lodge meeting (or go anywhere else) without being armed. It's simply a matter of civilized behavior, as far as I'm concerned.<br /><br />There's only one brother at a lodge meeting who should be armed, and it's not a coincidence that his station is OUTSIDE the lodge room.<br /><br />Dave Brown<br />Garden City Lodge, Newtonville, MAgotham77https://www.blogger.com/profile/06673302463186612933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-31652029156154558712016-03-21T09:54:21.256-04:002016-03-21T09:54:21.256-04:00If this hypothetical brother can't leave his f...If this hypothetical brother can't leave his firearm in his car, perhaps he should just leave it at home before he goes to lodge.<br /><br />Weapons don't belong inside a lodge room. Period.<br /><br />Dave Brown<br />Garden City Lodge, Newtonville, MAgotham77https://www.blogger.com/profile/06673302463186612933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-71428176332381828232016-03-21T08:38:25.492-04:002016-03-21T08:38:25.492-04:00Don Laughlin, Senior Warden, Arlington Lodge No. 4...Don Laughlin, Senior Warden, Arlington Lodge No. 438, TX. I believe in this, however, we use that "Don't ask, don't tell" policy. My perceptions are that most of of brothers, when in the Lodge Room", are carrying, but no one asks or discusses it. This could create a liability issue however.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975812238915435172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-74670322498795837912016-03-20T17:02:59.622-04:002016-03-20T17:02:59.622-04:00I was told that when PGM Truman would attend my lo...I was told that when PGM Truman would attend my lodge in D.C. (Federal #1)as President, his security detail would have to remain outside with the Tyler, or if a Mason, would have to lock his weapon in a special box in one of the lodge's lockers.GLectEmerithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02629964125009319770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-22186205675207430162016-03-20T15:07:42.292-04:002016-03-20T15:07:42.292-04:00".....bring nothing offensive into the lodge....".....bring nothing offensive into the lodge......" pertains to the candidate, who is an unknown. Throughout history members wore their swords into lodge meetings.<br />If a member has a concealed weapons permit I see no reason why they should not disarm themselves for a meeting. I have been to lodges that have a gun locker where a person could leave their handgun and keep the key with them. This would be fine for a member participating in the degree.WallyNieberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12900255167237891810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-6141822626744067002016-03-20T10:47:25.199-04:002016-03-20T10:47:25.199-04:00If I were Tyler, I would carry. I have the legal ...If I were Tyler, I would carry. I have the legal right to carry in my state and what Brother Hodap holds out as an example of why not was people being stupid. There was no Masonic reason for either of those weapons to drawn.<br /><br />So, why would I carry as Tyler? A Tyler's duty is to protect the lodge and the Brothers while they are meeting. Unfortunately, our lodges and members are sometimes attacked by lunatics. A dull sword isn't much protection. A properly armed Tyler is. So, we do have a Brother charged with security, just with the wrong implement.Travelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17157862211621153809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-48551278580231542182016-03-20T04:14:42.714-04:002016-03-20T04:14:42.714-04:00To be an active Military member of the Armed Force...To be an active Military member of the Armed Forces in a hostile environment or a full time Law Enforcement Officer is a very special and unique experience. No amount of book learning can give you this experience. <br /><br />In my own jurisdiction of Washington State, we had a Master of the Lodge who was a full time Parole Officer and he always carried his concealed weapon. Due to his unique line of work and some of the borderline insane people he had to deal with, I felt safe knowing that he was armed in Lodge. At any moment, one of his more tougher charges (Parollees) or their friends, could challenge him and they could care less about a Lodge meeting.<br /><br />Mature regular Masons who are serving the military in very ugly hostile environments of the Middle East or Senior (Parole Officers are senior cops) Law Enforcement Officers may need to carry a firearm into Lodge and fellow brethren should not be afraid of it because these MATURE Brothers are to be regarded as PROFESSIONALS.<br /><br />Hazing, pranks, joking around, and horse play, have no place in a Craft lodge. Any Master allowing such behavior has no business wielding the gavel. I think the Grand Master of South Carolina has the right idea and I imagine some of our brethren of early Colonial times (Military Lodges) would agree.Thomas Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16496528868148315705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-50253383874764884032016-03-19T20:07:43.667-04:002016-03-19T20:07:43.667-04:00Who is Samy Mohamed Hamzeh?Who is Samy Mohamed Hamzeh?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861793961087022681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-90733497938545202772016-03-19T18:19:05.192-04:002016-03-19T18:19:05.192-04:00Maybe we could all come up with a position that we...Maybe we could all come up with a position that we could appoint a trusted brother to? A position in which they would be armed with an implement of some description and charged with providing security while the lodge is open?f2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/15461747765755572743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-69465583692515690502016-03-19T18:12:42.114-04:002016-03-19T18:12:42.114-04:00I continue to be amazed at masons who apply the EA...I continue to be amazed at masons who apply the EA candidate being divested of minerals and metals as applying to people other than the candidate. I know of no mason who brings a weapon into lodge because he feel the need to protect himself while in lodge. If he carries (legally) a firearm while traveling to lodge, leaving it in the car is not a proper way to secure it against thief. <br />Abide by the law of the community. <br /><br />Wayne E. Sirmon, PM<br />Mobile, ALAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13047958419589606491noreply@blogger.com