tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post799407762528015171..comments2024-03-26T12:05:58.591-04:00Comments on Freemasons For Dummies: Masonic License Plates in Arkansas?Christopher Hodapphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-81925559039970087732022-02-21T18:06:32.891-05:002022-02-21T18:06:32.891-05:00Per Arkansas Revenue Office website, there are now...Per Arkansas Revenue Office website, there are now separate plates for GLAr and PHA, in addition to the original one mentioned above <br /><br />Miles Conerly, Cedar Bayou 321, TexasMileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13273879892280872650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-2522273099847612282015-03-06T16:17:11.170-05:002015-03-06T16:17:11.170-05:00KEN YOU ARE A RACIST!!! PRINCE HALL IS REAL YOU A...KEN YOU ARE A RACIST!!! PRINCE HALL IS REAL YOU ACT LIKE A KKK MEMBER PRINCE HALL WILL NEVER BE STOPPED THE REAL TRAVELING MANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12565146360658615356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-4539801783589797632015-03-06T16:14:33.996-05:002015-03-06T16:14:33.996-05:00PRINCE HALL MASON ARE THE REAL DEAL AND WILL NEVER...PRINCE HALL MASON ARE THE REAL DEAL AND WILL NEVER BE STOPPED!!!!KEN YOU ARE A HATER LEARN YOUR HISTORY AND ANY OF YOU OTHERS THAT DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!KEN YOU SPEAK AS YOU BEING A RACIST AND A KKK MEMBER. YOU ARE A RACIST VERY SIMPLETHE REAL TRAVELING MANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12565146360658615356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-65729019576058191152011-06-30T14:27:00.179-04:002011-06-30T14:27:00.179-04:00it appears to me that making the Sebastin Lodge se...it appears to me that making the Sebastin Lodge secretary a good guy is what the trend on this site is about; rather,it is a given, any person that is part of any organization, public or private, that disparages the leadership of that organization is asking for trouble from those in leadership. and a possible example of that truth may be seen if this comment is not posted.cbarryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13282853449759212000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-81145610429782514892011-06-30T14:15:22.539-04:002011-06-30T14:15:22.539-04:00one point that has not been raised: does the Princ...one point that has not been raised: does the Prince Hall Grand lodge of Arkansas recognize and accept Blue lodge free masons in their Lodge?cbarryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13282853449759212000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-15457909315751598652010-11-27T15:47:05.390-05:002010-11-27T15:47:05.390-05:00Ask a Massachusetts Mason sometime where the vener...Ask a Massachusetts Mason sometime where the venerated St. Andrews Lodge in Boston, ground zero of the Revolution, got its charter.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-48562507252494170352010-11-27T15:44:05.365-05:002010-11-27T15:44:05.365-05:00Prince Hall Freemasonry is historically and predom...Prince Hall Freemasonry is historically and predominantly made of of black members. Certainly not exclusively, but predominantly. It developed as almost every social and cultural institution did in the 180 or so years after the American Revolution. That's not pejorative, it's just the way society developed. But as you point out, PHA has active military lodges and is often the first way servicemen overseas are introduced to the fraternity. Many join these PHA lodges and come home, only to be derisively told they joined the "wrong" Masonry.<br /><br />Prince Hall Freemasonry did not go "around" the "traditional" method of founding, any more than the three post-Revolution predominantly white grand lodges at work in Massachusetts did before finally merging into what became the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-43241886335319026882010-11-27T11:58:57.240-05:002010-11-27T11:58:57.240-05:00Just for clarification, Prince Hall is not a BLACK...Just for clarification, Prince Hall is not a BLACK Masonic organization. In fact, many Prince Hall Masons are not black. Prince Hall Masonry is found at many military installations and if you were to attend a meeting you would find as varied a mix of races as anywhere.<br />It's not the color of skin that some southern Lodges object to, it is how they were founded and recognized. They kind of went "around" the traditional method.<br />By the way, I live in Massachusetts and have visited the Prince Hall Lodge Number 1 several times.<br />Eric Callahan<br />DeWitt Clinton Lodge<br />Dennis, MAHiram Abiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07265516805702273317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-66282566086881519742010-03-27T00:53:04.790-04:002010-03-27T00:53:04.790-04:00The charges on the creator of the Sebastian Lodge ...The charges on the creator of the Sebastian Lodge stem from the fact that our lodge had placed on its website parts of the Craft and memory work which were put out there for the public to see it did not have to do with the license plate memo. We at the Sebastian Lodge should have paid more attention to what was on our website. We just left it in charge of the secretary not a wise thing to do not knowing what is being put out there in the name of your lodge.<br /><br />Bro. James Sebastian Lodge 706Brojohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07266206305623709690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-72073146366902366162010-03-24T19:39:25.881-04:002010-03-24T19:39:25.881-04:00The creator of the Sebastian Lodge website is bein...The creator of the Sebastian Lodge website is being tried for unmasonic conduct to be permanently EXPELLED.<br /><br />For not condoning the letter against the license plates, charges were brought against him by the Grand Master. Other charges were added as well to help push it through.<br /><br />A new rule was made to assist in the expulsion outlawing electronic communications of GL directives.<br /><br />Read the only page at sebastianlodge.com for more I guess.<br /><br />Write letters or call in support of him to AR's Grand Lodge.forabetterlifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09326722913598836823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-395068400241695332010-03-22T20:13:39.917-04:002010-03-22T20:13:39.917-04:00Word has spread that Grand Lodge of Arkansas has r...Word has spread that Grand Lodge of Arkansas has revoked Sebastian Lodge's charter. The website was the reason for revocation. It would seem that Sebastian Lodge has fallen for mentioning the license plate issue. Boone Lodge hasn't been shut down for their website post. Will any Mason stand up for our brethren of Sebastian? I have sent a letter to their Grand Lodge officers. But being from out of state, no person will care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-125104027343977902010-03-10T22:00:37.132-05:002010-03-10T22:00:37.132-05:00Arkansas does have an official Masonic Plate that&...Arkansas does have an official Masonic Plate that's is being<br /> issued by the Department of Fianance and Adminstration. The proceeds will go to the Prince Hall Outreach Community Outreach Program that will will continue to provide scholarships to ALL students who qualify regardless of race or if their parents are apart of the Masonic family. This will only help deserving students who want to better our state by keeping good colloge graduates in our state. Rather it's Prince Hall, mainstream, F&AM or AF&AM we are all MASONS... We have the same ritual, we have the same oath, we have the same goal: to come together to be better men for our families, our country and most important, God...We need to come together as one body to help to do what the men have done before us and pave the way for what our sons will do after us.. So I challenge each Mason in this great state to use your better judgement as a family man, as a brother of the craft, and most important as a Mason. "We don't need more men in Masonry, we need more Masonry in Men"... William Franklin 1908-1993...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08289634033298820464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-68261330844501616152010-03-03T15:15:16.687-05:002010-03-03T15:15:16.687-05:00It was asked elsewhere if the GL of Arkansas prohi...It was asked elsewhere if the GL of Arkansas prohibits its members from writing a check to a Prince Hall charity. That is essentially the situation with this license plate.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-57796828725486870812010-03-03T14:44:10.815-05:002010-03-03T14:44:10.815-05:00So it wouldn't be unfair to say that the Grand...So it wouldn't be unfair to say that the Grand Lodge of Arkansas is taking away a potential source of scholarship money for Arkansas high school students by not participating in the license plate program?<br /><br />— W.S.Widow's Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05135009678671539418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-64202875633321402752010-03-03T14:01:05.820-05:002010-03-03T14:01:05.820-05:00According to Janet Beck at the Arkansas Department...According to Janet Beck at the Arkansas Department of Finance and Administration, the specialty fees for the plates go to the Most Worshipful Grand Lodge Community Outreach Inc. in Pine Bluff, which grants scholarships to Arkansas high school seniors.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-51547395505388679832010-03-03T12:22:13.284-05:002010-03-03T12:22:13.284-05:00A similar notice can now be found on the Boone Lod...A similar notice can now be found on the Boone Lodge No. 314 (Harrison, Ark.) website at http://www.mastermason.com/Boone314/.<br /><br />"NOTICE: Grand Lodge of Arkansas has declared that no Arkansas Freemason is to purchase a Masonic Arkansas license plate. These are for Prince Hall Masons, which Arkansas considers to be clandestine lodges.<br /><br />"This notice fulfills the requirement of the Grand Lodge of Arkansas for each subordinated Lodge to inform their members.<br /><br />"The publishing of this notice does not necessarily reflect the views of Boone Lodge or its members."<br /><br /><br />Widow's Son<br />BurningTaper.comWidow's Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05135009678671539418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-49411468725431617742010-03-02T15:14:11.602-05:002010-03-02T15:14:11.602-05:00Heh. They could have cooperated and split the proc...Heh. They could have cooperated and split the proceeds, but then that would be...cooperating. And acknowledging the "other side" existed.<br /><br />A real shame.<br /><br />Arkansas has not put the plate on their specialty plate web page yet.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-46025122703325411092010-03-02T12:36:32.659-05:002010-03-02T12:36:32.659-05:00Having just returned from the 138th Grand Session ...Having just returned from the 138th Grand Session of the Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Arkansas I can testify to the fact that the Masonic license plate is an official license plate issued by the state of Arkansas, what some of us in other states would call a "vanity plate." It is not a decorative plate for the front of the vehicle but would be a purchaser's official vehicle license plate. It is also a generic plate neither geared toward Mainstream or PHA. The fact that Prince Hall initiated this program and got it approved by the state of Arkansas and thus a portion of the sale of every license plate goes to the Prince Hall Grand Lodge seems to have Arkansas Mainstream Masons' knickers in a twist.<br /><br />Bro. Frederic L. Milliken<br />MWPHGL TexasFrederic L. Millikenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00375574953455842623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-33061759450152867462010-03-01T15:13:27.132-05:002010-03-01T15:13:27.132-05:00It's contradicting to our own values that this...It's contradicting to our own values that this issue still exists in some lodges in our nation. It's frustrating to know that our own Grand Lodges receives information about this and do nothing about it. Of course each state is independent with a Grand Lodge for their own, but the United States Freemasonry is still one in a since because of our Universal Brotherhood. So I think that our Grand Lodges should try to "Council" our Brethren that may need some reminder of our obligations and rights. Even though we have a freewill and accord, but more importantly we have our obligations that we SWORN upon to keep. Especially as Master Masons. In a since incidents like this could look bad to other states in our nation, other countries, and more importantly to our selves.Valdeirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16694125189420172561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-41485467110766777262010-03-01T14:20:39.419-05:002010-03-01T14:20:39.419-05:00Bro. Rich,
Seems a little like the tail wagging th...Bro. Rich,<br />Seems a little like the tail wagging the dog, doesn't it? Why do the few hold out Grand Lodges seem to be the ones holding the cards?<br />How many snowbird Masons who were raised in the North East but now live in Arkansas would no longer be able to attend lodge in Arkansas if we pulled recognition? How much would they lose in per capita dues from those members no longer being able to hold dual membership in Arkansas?<br />It's 2010. This should have been done with 50 years ago.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09890140851141045588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-55073993020597884412010-03-01T11:49:21.391-05:002010-03-01T11:49:21.391-05:00My understanding is there have been revocation of ...My understanding is there have been revocation of recognition and threats of such for recognizing PHA or "Negro Lodges" but not any for discrimination.richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03986380921261041457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-47126496666723445682010-03-01T09:50:52.637-05:002010-03-01T09:50:52.637-05:00There is apparently no official Arkansas state gov...There is apparently no official Arkansas state government-issued plate, but with AK being one of the states that requires a plate only on the rear of the vehicle, could this be referring to the purely decorative plates that are occasionally displayed on front bumpers?Mark Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830351302337109896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-26669918431118215742010-02-28T21:49:07.950-05:002010-02-28T21:49:07.950-05:00Brother Chris,
I totally understand they are two s...Brother Chris,<br />I totally understand they are two separate issues. I just believe strongly that both are unacceptable.<br />The so called "progressive" Grand Lodges need to start putting pressure on the hold outs. Both those that refuse to recognize PH and those that will not admit black members. The only real way to do that is to rescind recognition.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09890140851141045588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-76835555403105080532010-02-28T21:18:15.295-05:002010-02-28T21:18:15.295-05:00Brother Ken,
In fairness, the admitting of black b...Brother Ken,<br />In fairness, the admitting of black brethren into mainstream lodges is not the same issue as Prince Hall recognition. But yes, I agree, the exclusion of black Masons from mainstream Freemasonry is indeed a stain on the brotherhood.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-27174460955545562612010-02-28T18:59:56.496-05:002010-02-28T18:59:56.496-05:00It's still a shame that there are 10 Jurisdict...It's still a shame that there are 10 Jurisdictions that do not recognize Prince Hall. Thankfully, in Nevada we not only recognize Prince Hall, but any Prince Hall that the PHA of Nevada recognizes, we do! <br />Arcangelo Cocco, WM<br />Nellis Lodge #46<br />Las VegasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com