tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post5924518782875989754..comments2024-03-26T12:05:58.591-04:00Comments on Freemasons For Dummies: Why He Left, and Why We Need To Care - A LotChristopher Hodapphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-48935790270532487622023-01-16T16:01:32.248-05:002023-01-16T16:01:32.248-05:00MM UGLE
Very often the attitude(I found)when signi...MM UGLE<br />Very often the attitude(I found)when signing the Tyler's book by other Brethren was nothing short of cold.<br />Note really over friendly in the Lodge room either.<br />I'm unattached now having had to resign due to financial restraints forced upon me by COVID 19(Self Employed).<br />This isn't really related to the loss of new Brethren but I find it deeply upsetting that not one of the Brethren of my former Lodge has contacted me either by letter or a simple phone call to ask how things are or might they ever see me in Lodge again if my circumstances were to improve.<br />The feeling I get is that as I've left the fold they simply have shut the door on me are not a bit interested.<br />Sorry to winge on but I do feel a bit hurt.<br />S&,FAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-51648033399598031942022-12-23T01:22:07.975-05:002022-12-23T01:22:07.975-05:00I’m really one the fence about leaving. I’m
contem...I’m really one the fence about leaving. I’m<br />contemplating my exit plan and demit. I really love the idea of the craft but disliking the reality of it. Watching guys progress through the chairs who don’t know the ritual and don’t show up even to the installation (just because they are friends with the WM) watching new younger guys get mentored and prepared for leadership roles while they don’t even know my name after a few years, nor do they care. I literally have the work memorized and they seemed to be annoyed by that and I haven’t been allowed to speak in lodge. I was actually cut off while introducing myself. All I said was my name as we went around the lodge and boom the WM cut me off. Really embarrassing. The final straw was when finally I was asked to do a charge…had the work memorized and then told by the WM that he wants to do it instead and we can take it up with the Sr members. I didn’t even want to do it really…I just replied “no worries…don’t want to complicate things. No big deal” but in my mind… I started to plan my exit. I’m<br />grown adult with a life and job . I outgrew the petty behavior as a teenager and don’t need it in my middle age. Ian Davisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-67562350071960713052020-09-27T23:07:56.808-04:002020-09-27T23:07:56.808-04:00I petitioned my local lodge and voted in but degre...I petitioned my local lodge and voted in but degree work is on hold for new members due to COVID. However during my visits during this waiting period I have come to the conclusion I am not going to remain with the organization. The Lodge is supposed to be free of talk of politics and each time I attend it's always the hot topic. I was hoping for a break from the crap but obviously not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-66291785373206213842019-01-28T16:38:23.601-05:002019-01-28T16:38:23.601-05:00Greetings Bro. Chris
This is Salman Sheikh and I...Greetings Bro. Chris <br /><br />This is Salman Sheikh and I hope you are doing well and in good health my brother. I was listening to the Masonic Roundtable podcast on YouTube and they kept mentioning your blog and name every other episode so I decided to look you up. I was surprised to find my article posted on your blog. I was made a Mason first in my heart and through my daily actions in my life I do for my fellow man, not being an official lodge member will never take that away from me. You are right you have those that say maybe I did not succeed or it wasn't for me as you see on the comments here or if you go back to that article where this one guy called the Prophet of my faith a pedophile and you can see in which manner I responded to him and that was with respect and brotherly love because I did not forget my obligations. I have a Masonic update in the works I know you and Bro Fred will both appreciate posting up. If you can send me your contact info to SalmanSheikh911@gmail.com I would appreciate it. Also, if you are ever in the Philly area please contact me and I would love to sit down with you and have a coffee. For the record, RWGM Bro S Eugene Herritt pictured above with me is a great man and its his influence and love he showed me that I might consider returning. There were those in PA who believed I broke his trust by posting my article with our picture together but there is only one place where I mention and I praise him for his actions making changes in Pennsylvania. These are the same people who never had the courage to say anything to their friends who laughed at me when I resigned. I rest my case and I know you understand my brother. I look forward to hearing from you and providing you this Masonic Update within these following months I know you and everyone who truly loves this fraternity will appreciate it. May God bless you always and remove all your sorrows for this new year. Respectfully yours, Salman SheikhAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17753275316071084782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-49762253565722007122018-11-14T13:20:41.403-05:002018-11-14T13:20:41.403-05:00Christopher Hodapp ( an above listed commentor) me...Christopher Hodapp ( an above listed commentor) mentioned "...the rules of behavior..." Perhaps those rules should be published for all to know of.<br />Cherryprohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00212864266380951670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-19725741226167206112018-11-12T09:34:11.577-05:002018-11-12T09:34:11.577-05:00That is a sad and unfortunately too true statement...That is a sad and unfortunately too true statementJay William Koelschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12035852160291739684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-85574164571176543132018-11-12T09:20:03.236-05:002018-11-12T09:20:03.236-05:00I quit due to no one caring about anything other t...I quit due to no one caring about anything other than themselves. That was just my experience in my mother lodge, and in lodges I looked into joining before deciding to discontinue. I wanna say that was just "my experience" as is the common excuse but 5 states later... yeah nope. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-38027576922506456842018-11-12T01:32:17.738-05:002018-11-12T01:32:17.738-05:00I am an 18th, a long road in masonty. I left becau...I am an 18th, a long road in masonty. I left because of petty factionalism in the lodge from district members favouring dishonest brothers. Perhaps the lodge is there to eventually teach them morality, perhaps those who leave dont need that structure. Always a mason at heart, sadly lodgeless.therangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01475911429131647307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-75217748785483046032018-11-12T00:01:18.329-05:002018-11-12T00:01:18.329-05:00I have been a mason for over 20 years served in th...I have been a mason for over 20 years served in the chair as worshipful master and I'm seeing many come and go for different reasons. The biggest one is time. Masonry is time consuming if done well. It takes a significant amount of study, memorizing and dedication. It is an entity unto itself to support ones faith tradition NOT to become it's own faith. It can be a true brotherhood of men under the fatherhood of God.IBNED2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10818741647349072835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-12313270033775224342018-11-11T16:33:19.793-05:002018-11-11T16:33:19.793-05:00As a member of a visible minority and a Muslim I h...As a member of a visible minority and a Muslim I have had to endure three years of bullying by the grand lodge of Alberta. An accusation from a person that has had his identity hidden by the grand lodge has caused them to mobilize many individuals to confront me, accuse me, harass and intimidate. I have had a grand senior warden proudly state that "I put my hand in the hand of a brother and promised not to reveal his identity". This same protected brother has made accusations and claims that are untrue. Yet the pillar of truth is not applied by an entirely white membership of the grand lodge officer line. They continue to protect said accuser without any evidence that he actually exists. I have an email from another officer of the grand lodge warning me to not make accusations unless I am on solid ground while he actions his loyal membership to confront me regarding the previously mentioned accusation from an unnamed member. The hypocrisy is Trump level garbage yet the grand master here ignores every message I send him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-30721730247231553792018-11-11T15:22:04.693-05:002018-11-11T15:22:04.693-05:00This is honestly one if ny biggest worries in East...This is honestly one if ny biggest worries in Eastern Canada where I live. Our Lodge apparently has over 50 members but you'd be lucky to get half at any given meeting. On top of this, at 25,I am the youngest member in our Lodge. I'll also the youngest Shriner in my city too. I'll never leave, but IllI be damned if I let other brothersb ignore their obligstiobs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11836927081591713199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-55032280499894134782018-11-11T13:34:11.052-05:002018-11-11T13:34:11.052-05:00I wanted to use Nag Hamadi in my initiation and my...I wanted to use Nag Hamadi in my initiation and my lodge said that texas didnt want it....and i was watching informative weekly shows on masonry.....they told me not to do that but THEY NEVER ELABORATE, so do i be a brat and keep asking why or just try to not rock the boat more?<br /><br />Well then i went to a lodge and they were saying all the pr bullshit like masonry accepts people and "if you dont use the book of your faith then its not binding." So yeah then i freaked out and wanted to tell a room JAM PACKED of young guys to basically not join or imply it wasnt the great club i wanted it to be.<br /><br />I refuse to be apart of something that says you have to love everyone yet they obviously dont love me. Love really isnt a good thing anyway. <br /><br />Im thankful you post about THE TRUTH of the organization. I really would want to be a mason, but this world is too evil and i honestly truly think everyone should put up their aprons and we make it into a hobbiest club that just meets and talks about things and theres no dues or bullshit performances of rituals which butcher them. <br /><br />Everything is infront and behind our eyes anyway.<br /><br />I cared too much about the cool things i read in Manly's books. Just read him if youre a young dude reading into Masonry and never join unless you find an actual esoteric lodge. Everything else is just a degree mill trying to stsy afloat as their members die off.....its not worth the pain.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06174940922119117324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-13389960858329169312018-11-11T10:09:39.520-05:002018-11-11T10:09:39.520-05:00Please go visits several lodges, ask questions, do...Please go visits several lodges, ask questions, do not beg or supplicate yourself for admission to any particular lodge. Find one that answers your questions to your satisfaction. <br /><br />Ask about leadership, further education, how active are the members, etc. Find the one that fits your needs and then petition. <br /><br />Find one that when you present yourself as someone that can and will lead you will be welcomed. Then you can begin to make a difference in your lodge and in your community. WarriorSagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04861613849404442244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-27669403361622626872018-11-11T08:03:34.602-05:002018-11-11T08:03:34.602-05:00The essay by Sheikh himself sounds like the standa...The essay by Sheikh himself sounds like the standard intolerance displayed by millennial every day. <br /><br />I have lived in 3 countries, two of which I am a true minority, and racism is legally practiced. (In other words there are no laws that stop actual racism).<br /><br />I grew up in late seventies an 80's America, and there is not an American of his age that actually knows what racism is, they have never experienced real racism, what it comes down to, is he is intolerant of opinions different to his. <br /><br />To have an issue with either the Muslim religion or Muslim countries is not racism, as Muslim isn't a race to begin with.<br /><br />He was a Mason for a whopping 3 years and joined every major body, in PH that's called going 360, he might of written papers, but didn't actually understand anything. The idea that Wisdom comes with age comes to mind. Its experience and knowledge, he very well might of adapted a small amount of knowledge, but wasn't in long enough to have any real experience.<br /><br />People are quick to pass easy blame, I saw this when this blog mis-represented facts about my GL and in particular my Lodge which was grouped in with it, and was a completely separate matter all together.<br /><br />People are entitled to differing opinions, and differing ethics, Its a part of the Constitution, one of the five right guaranteed in the 1st Amendment. These young kids, and to put it bluntly, crotchety old Liberals, know-it-all Liberals would do well to learn the simple fact of the matter is, that their opinion is no more or less correct than the opinions they disagree with.abonifi1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10934930297449748299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-45910889729699604022018-11-11T00:05:55.103-05:002018-11-11T00:05:55.103-05:00I plan on petitioning to join the local lodge, and...I plan on petitioning to join the local lodge, and have done quite a bit of research into the fraternity just to be sure it's a good institution to associate my name with. That said, it is very counter-convincining to people when you hear and read members (prominent ones too) talk about how other religions and peoples have no place within Freemasonry, Society, and the World. More so when you find that some grand lodges have actual rules in place that bar homosexuals or people of certain political ideologies—no matter how law-abiding, god-believing, and genuinely moral they might be—from gaining and maintaining membership in a supposedly apolitical non-sectarian brotherhood espousing "the Brotherhood of Mam and the Fatherhood of God".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-10348809553581451632018-11-10T21:19:18.293-05:002018-11-10T21:19:18.293-05:00True. And those few how do initiated need to be re...True. And those few how do initiated need to be retained well Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03255024647617997851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-56235227628342760842018-11-10T16:54:22.652-05:002018-11-10T16:54:22.652-05:00Thousands answer to the call but only a few reall...Thousands answer to the call but only a few really deserve to be initiated! gondrumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10908290851896251961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-27503769684684347242018-11-10T16:43:20.046-05:002018-11-10T16:43:20.046-05:00There are damned few organizations on Earth that c...There are damned few organizations on Earth that can rise above the the beliefs and actions of the human beings who populate them. Freemasonry is no better or worse than the Red Cross, the the Disney Corporation, OPEC, the Sierra Club, or the Concatenated Order of Hoo Hoo, in that respect. But we do a huge disservice to ourselves and to the fraternity as a whole when we tolerate open behavior that deliberately flies in the face of the very teachings we claim to espouse. And because the most recent generation of people under 30 have become hyper-sensitive to the topic of hypocrisy over public posturing vs. private behavior, combined with the immediacy of Internet communication, the damage just one or two jurisdictions - or even just individual Masons - can do by being public asses is incalculable. And we have critics who are only too happy to magnify them.<br /><br />I think Paul overstates negative effects of Masonic membership on careers, although there are indeed certain professions or avenues of work where that might be true. But we have largely done the harm to ourselves by admitting anyone with a pulse whose check managed to clear the bank, instead of holding out for better potential members and sticking to high standards. We used to have them, and every grand lodge had (and still do have) rules about public behavior. It's long past time that we started enforcing them again.Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-49885698615098991372018-11-10T16:00:30.749-05:002018-11-10T16:00:30.749-05:00Over the years I have taken seriously the patience...Over the years I have taken seriously the patience that Chris and other Masonic scholars I respect display about those jurisdictions which discriminate against Prince Hall Masons, Jews, African-American Masons in general, gays, and others. The view has been that time will amend. I have tried to explain that any candidate or new member will encounter this attitude despite being told about our universal brotherhood. As a professor I have been directly asked in class discussions how I can belong to an organization which discriminates. Trying to explain grand lodge jurisdictions is really impractical in such conversations. Just recently a very senior leader of the Scottish Rite when we were talking about the lack of African-American in various valleys said that "as long as grand lodges do not admit them, we don't have the problem of taking them, thank God". I used to help students who asked about joining but i no longer do so because of the possible longterm effects on their careers. I also feel we have a problem with not admitting women but having tax privileges and interfaces with a variety of situations like appearances in parades, memorial cemetery observations, and other public functions where there are increasing efforts to have diversity. So I am of the opinion that patience may be the recipe for further decline. Our history is of a society born of the Enlightenment, with its liberal values. At a dinner a few years ago a Southern grand master said to me, "Well, they kicked us out of the schools and the parks and the libraries, but they won't kick us out of lodge while I am alive."Bro. Paul Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06435030965629467739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-66382748516826859962018-11-10T15:18:11.597-05:002018-11-10T15:18:11.597-05:00If everyone quit over bigotry, ignorance, etc. the...If everyone quit over bigotry, ignorance, etc. there wouldn't be anyone left.<br /><br />Jay<br />Magpie Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390264410632162085noreply@blogger.com