tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post4097916944003588120..comments2024-03-26T12:05:58.591-04:00Comments on Freemasons For Dummies: Winston Smith At Work In West Virginia?Christopher Hodapphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-58691667803813821242007-12-17T14:49:00.000-05:002007-12-17T14:49:00.000-05:00The rules of WV will destroy the lodges in their a...The rules of WV will destroy the lodges in their area due to lack of growth of members and inability to raise funds to keep up their lodges. My limited exposure the the WV Lodges over the years has lend me to form that opinion. It is a great shame and the WV Grand Masters have prevented any attempt to ensure the viability of their Craft. The lodges I have visited were wonderful and the people were great, but the upper level Leadership has failed their members.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-65466176837888109512007-12-13T18:35:00.000-05:002007-12-13T18:35:00.000-05:00WOWI never how conservative WVa was with their rul...WOW<BR/>I never how conservative WVa was with their rules and regulations?<BR/><BR/>I am not sure I could grow under such stifling situations?<BR/><BR/>Where is the Freedom in WVa Freemasonry?<BR/>I wish our expelled brothers the best!Tubal Cainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00704479584240584425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-66552518078423887442007-12-11T15:46:00.000-05:002007-12-11T15:46:00.000-05:00...as in the term "annual communication" or "state......as in the term "annual communication" or "stated communication."Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-66772187807316093242007-12-11T14:24:00.000-05:002007-12-11T14:24:00.000-05:00WBro Chris K -- I still maintain that to "communic...WBro Chris K -- I still maintain that to "communicate Masonically" means to sit down together in a tyled meeting, not simply to talk about Masonry. :DFuzzy Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802539927743643041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-41788902366213110002007-12-11T14:08:00.000-05:002007-12-11T14:08:00.000-05:00Is it sort of like Republicans listing only Republ...<I>Is it sort of like Republicans listing only Republican presidents as having been presidents when presenting a list of former presidents?</I><BR/><BR/>Well, THAT I would certainly agree with doing... < g >Christopher Hodapphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201859873755654395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-79080370414654540962007-12-11T13:01:00.000-05:002007-12-11T13:01:00.000-05:00There are several gaps in the GL of WV's website's...There are several gaps in the GL of WV's website's history of grand masters. Were there others expelled, or did some GM's serve for more than one year? Or, are they just listing the ones that are now seen as having been on the "right side"? Is it sort of like Republicans listing only Republican presidents as having been presidents when presenting a list of former presidents?<BR/><BR/>Strange bedfellows politics do make....<BR/><BR/>— W.S.Widow's Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05135009678671539418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-34586631620422592232007-12-11T12:56:00.000-05:002007-12-11T12:56:00.000-05:00Put 'em all in Room 101 and throw all the papers d...Put 'em all in Room 101 and throw all the papers down the memory hole. That'll fix everything!<BR/><BR/>Widow's Son<BR/><A HREF="http://burningtaper.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">BurningTaper.com</A>Widow's Sonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05135009678671539418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-61252393281386825632007-12-11T10:31:00.000-05:002007-12-11T10:31:00.000-05:00This is a unique wrinkle. If a man should convers...This is a unique wrinkle. If a man should converse Masonically with PGM Hass at this meeting, even though they don't agree with the GL of WV or their actions, wouldn't they be violating their obligation?<BR/><BR/>Just thinking aloud....<BR/>Chris Kimmel, WMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-26919701738441980462007-12-11T10:13:00.000-05:002007-12-11T10:13:00.000-05:00Bro. Hodapp, Just to throw in some trivia, in th...Bro. Hodapp,<BR/> Just to throw in some trivia, in the case of Prince Hall masonry, one of the more notable expulsions took place in Illinois in 1903, when the PHGL in Illinois suspended its former grand secretary AND founder of the Prince Hall Shriners John G. Jones. He was expelled for clandestine activities, and after the expulsion, he founded a number of clandestine Black grand lodges throughout the US. He is sort of the Godfather of clandestine Black masonry.<BR/><BR/>He and his picture is still on the list of past grand secretaries in the PHGL of Illinois website, and he is mentioned whenever a history of the Prince Hall Shrine is written. However, there is a caption under his name that he was expelled for clandestine activities.<BR/><BR/>Given some of the things he has done prior to expulsion, it would be hard as hell to erase his name from any history books or sites.<BR/><BR/>Just wanted to throw this historical tidbit in.<BR/><BR/>-DocAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25683662.post-50805639296783015752007-12-11T08:57:00.000-05:002007-12-11T08:57:00.000-05:00Actually, it's not true that expelled GMs don't ge...Actually, it's not true that expelled GMs don't get "erased" from the official lists. It happened to GM William H. Marker (1909) whose name was stricken from the official list of Indiana GMs for 42 years. See Goodly Heritage, pp. 416-419.<BR/><BR/>Of course this was due to the fact that MWBro. Marker was convicted of embezzlement, etc., in federal court. I doubt that MWBro. Hass has done anything comparable.Fuzzy Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802539927743643041noreply@blogger.com